Lumifer comments on Arguments Against Speciesism - Less Wrong

28 Post author: Lukas_Gloor 28 July 2013 06:24PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (474)

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: Lumifer 31 July 2013 03:32:59PM *  2 points [-]

Well yes, yes it does.

I disagree. Here is the relevant difference: if you're using "special" unconditionally, you're only expressing a fuzzy opinion which is just that, an opinion. To get to the level of facts you need to make your "special" conditional on some specific standard or metric and thus convert it into a measurement.

It's still the same as saying that prettiness of roses is objective. Unconditionally, it's not. But if you want to, you can define 'prettiness' sufficiently precisely to make it a measurement and then you can objectively talk about prettiness of roses.

Comment author: MugaSofer 31 July 2013 04:31:21PM *  -2 points [-]

Indeed. The difference being that humans don't all have the same prettiness-metrics, which is why the comparison fails.

Comment author: Lumifer 31 July 2013 04:51:09PM 3 points [-]

Humans all have the same specialness metrics?? I don't think so.