Swimmer963 comments on Does Goal Setting Work? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Swimmer963 17 October 2013 01:25:45AM *  1 point [-]

Too big! Seriously, this post contains too many elements to readily reply to in a coherent way.

Is that a problem? I tried to address it with the tl;dr and the conclusion.

One thing that's implied, but not directly stated in your post is that it's best to set goals that you will occasionally fail at (cf. Decius' reply to cousin_it re: inconsistent reinforcement).

I actually hadn't thought about that specifically. It seems to run contrary to success spirals, but I do think it's better to have a difficulty level where you know that you'll fail occasionally, and where that isn't catastrophic and you just keep plugging away.

Comment author: anandjeyahar 17 October 2013 02:11:33AM 1 point [-]

Too big! Seriously, this post contains too many elements to readily reply to in a coherent way.

Is that a problem? I tried to address it with the tl;dr and the conclusion.

I didn't find it too big. I just found it too bundled up, but that's probably because the topic is naturally like that. By 'bundled up' I mean, I found the article felt as if it interleaves too many concepts without first trying to make them all explicit. That said, am working on an article along lines of (introverts/intrinsic motivation vs extroverts/extrinsic motivation) so i understand the complexity involved.

Comment author: Swimmer963 17 October 2013 10:17:27AM 0 points [-]

Thanks for the heads up.

Comment author: savageorange 17 October 2013 07:55:17AM 0 points [-]

I upvoted anandjeyahar for saying what I meant better than I did -- it's the density of concepts rather than the raw length of the text that's an issue.

On reflection, how I approach the 'maintain some failure' criteria is to keep pushing my existing skills into new areas (so I can have a 'win' in terms of pushing my comfort zone even if my particular attempt at this new thing fails. I keep failure close so it doesn't become so scary, as you mention, but I don't utterly and uncategorically fail at any time)