Risto_Saarelma comments on Looking for opinions of people like Nick Bostrom or Anders Sandberg on current cryo techniques - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Risto_Saarelma 21 October 2013 11:27:50AM 3 points [-]

What do you think will actually happen, if/when we try to simulate stuff?

I'll tell you what I think won't happen: real feelings, real thoughts, real experiences.

It'll still be pretty cool when the philosophical zombie uploads who act exactly like qualia-carrying humans go ahead and build the galactic supercivilization of trillions of philosophical zombie uploads acting exactly like people and produce massive amounts of science, technology and culture. Most likely there will even be some biological humans around, so you won't even have to worry about nobody ever getting to experience any of it.

Comment author: yli 21 October 2013 12:05:26PM *  5 points [-]

Actually because the zombie uploads are capable of all the same reasoning as M_P, they will figure out that they're not conscious, and replace themselves with biological humans.

On the other hand, maybe they'll discover that biological humans aren't conscious either, they just say they are for reasons that are causally isomorphic to the reasons for which the uploads initially thought they were conscious, and then they'll set out to find a substrate that really allows for consciousness.