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Comment author: [deleted] 29 December 2013 09:22:30PM *  -1 points [-]

normal

Taboo that word. Is being left-handed normal?

ISTM the point of that word is often to sneak connotations in.

The subtler objection is to it telling people that if they find 19th century style male bonding appealing it means that they're "gay" and should thus engage in homosexual sex.

What? ISTM it's right-wingers who say things like that. EDIT: I guess I had misread that (I had read “should” as ‘are likely to’ rather than ‘had better’), in which case... what??? I can't remember anyone ever suggesting anything remotely like that with a straight face, and I know plenty of left-wingers; are you sure you aren't attacking a straw man?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 29 December 2013 09:53:40PM -2 points [-]

I guess I had misread that (I had read “should” as ‘are likely to’ rather than ‘had better’), in which case... what??? I can't remember anyone ever suggesting anything remotely like that with a straight face,

They tend to phrase it as encouraging people to "find out if they're gay", i.e., encourage people to declare themselves "gay" if what amounts to 19th century style male bonding appeals to them. Furthermore, once someone has been declared "gay" it's considered a horrendous hate crime to discourage him from engaging in homosexual sex.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 December 2013 10:36:04AM 0 points [-]

They tend to phrase it as encouraging people to "find out if they're gay", i.e., encourage people to declare themselves "gay" if what amounts to 19th century style male bonding appeals to them.

Never heard that either.

Furthermore, once someone has been declared "gay" it's considered a horrendous hate crime to discourage him from engaging in homosexual sex.

And once someone has been declared "straight" it's considered a horrendous hate crime to discourage him from engaging in heterosexual sex (except by fundamentalist Christians and the like, but that also applies to gay sex), so what's your point?

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