jimrandomh comments on Critiquing Gary Taubes, Part 4: What Causes Obesity? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChrisHallquist 30 December 2013 04:12:55PM 7 points [-]

I've heard "Eat Less Exercise More" hundreds of times from tons of people. All the time.

As I'll discuss in the next post, it's good advice. And contrary to what Taubes wants you to think, perfectly compatible with recognizing that the causes of obesity are complicated.

Taubes is attacking "nutrition experts" and the people who make the food pyramid, not elite obesity researchers.

The views Taubes attributes to "nutrition experts" are not only not the views of elite obesity researchers, they're not the views of the FDA, Surgeon General, or anyone else he attributes them to.

I get that you don't like his popsci "I'm a rebel" style...

It's not his style I don't like. It's the substantive and wildly false claims he's making.

...but that should've taken at most 1 post to say.

Some people take Taubes very seriously as a source of scientific information about nutrition, and unless it were a very long post, those people wouldn't have been satisfied.

Comment author: jimrandomh 30 December 2013 08:54:46PM 1 point [-]

I've heard "Eat Less Exercise More" hundreds of times from tons of people. All the time.

As I'll discuss in the next post, it's good advice.

This is the crux of the matter, and quite a few people disagree with it very strongly. In fact, it's downright offensive.

Some people take Taubes very seriously as a source of scientific information about nutrition, and unless it were a very long post, those people wouldn't have been satisfied.

Those people aren't here. All of the ad hominems against Gary Taubes are wasted on this audience.

Comment author: VAuroch 31 December 2013 07:58:28AM 1 point [-]

Those people aren't here.

Have you not be reading the comments for the last four posts here? They are.

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 January 2014 01:29:04PM *  1 point [-]

Those people don't care about the length of the attack. To quote Eliezers assessment: "this whole series is simply failing to find a smoking gun of Taubes saying something false".

Quantity doesn't help as a substitute for quality.