Jayson_Virissimo comments on Critiquing Gary Taubes, Part 4: What Causes Obesity? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 30 December 2013 11:35:54PM *  6 points [-]

As I'll discuss in the next post, it's good advice.

No, it really isn't (for me, at least). When I was limiting my calories and exercising more I was gaining weight, feeling like crap, and was miserable and hungry much of the time.

Now that I stopped trying to keep calories down and eat as much fat as I can handle (about 4/5 of my calories come from fat), I lost 30 lbs from my maximum, feel much better (in addition to having more favorable biomarkers), have significantly improved cognition, and almost never feel miserable because I'm hungry. This is precisely the opposite of the advice I received from virtually all the diet authorities I had encountered like my high school health textbook and doctors.

Comment author: ialdabaoth 31 December 2013 01:34:09AM *  6 points [-]

Now that I stopped trying to keep calories down and eat as much fat as I can handle (about 4/5 of my calories come from fat), I lost 30 lbs from my maximum, feel much better (in addition to having more favorable biomarkers), have significantly improved cognition, and almost never feel miserable because I'm hungry. This is precisely the opposite of the advice I received from virtually all the diet authorities I had encountered like my high school health textbook and doctors.

At what point do we start considering the hypothesis that different people have different things that work for them, and that a diet that is healthy for one person may be terrible or even life-threatening for another person?

So much focus is given on "Dietary advice X is good!" / "Dietary Advice Y is bad!", instead of asking how dietary behavior X interacts with metabolism Y?

I wonder if there's a market for a company that uses blood samples to examine various metabolic markers and meal logs to examine dietary behavior, and then correlate them over time with health markers and use that to craft a personal diet plan?

Comment author: ChristianKl 01 January 2014 01:22:59PM *  2 points [-]

I wonder if there's a market for a company that uses blood samples to examine various metabolic markers and meal logs to examine dietary behavior

Keeping meal logs is itself a fairly significant intervention into someone's diet.

It relatively hard to keep one that's accurate if you don't standardize your diet.

Comment author: Brillyant 31 December 2013 01:32:20AM 0 points [-]

Can you explain how this happens? Is a variation of the Atkins diet?

Eating Less + More Exercise = Gained Weight

Eating More ("as much fat as you can handle") + Less Exercise = Lose 30 Pounds.

Can you give more specifics? Time frame? Average calorie levels? Workout regiment?

In the first scenario, did your low mood and hunger cause you to break the diet often and binge calories?

Congrats, by the way. 30lbs is a lot of weight, and it sounds like you have improved your life all around.

Comment author: brazil84 31 December 2013 06:50:44AM 0 points [-]

Will you agree to update your report in a year or so?

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 01 January 2014 12:36:53AM 3 points [-]

You mean at the 3 year mark? It has already been 2 years.

Comment author: brazil84 01 January 2014 12:59:56PM 0 points [-]

You mean at the 3 year mark? It has already been 2 years.

Yes, although my erroneous impression from reading your post was that you hadn't been on the high-fat strategy for all that long.

Thanks for cooperating!

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 31 December 2013 01:14:45AM 0 points [-]

What kinds of fat have you been eating?

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 31 December 2013 02:36:32AM *  3 points [-]

In addition to the fat in my food (which tends to be fairly fatty like eggs, salmon, lamb, etc...), I usually add large amounts of butter, coconut oil, MCT oil, or olive oil. Also, I take way over the recommended dosage in cod liver oil supplements.

Comment author: EHeller 31 December 2013 05:28:58AM 2 points [-]

Also, I take way over the recommended dosage in cod liver oil supplements.

A word of warning here- long term use of large quantities cod liver oil can result in vitamin A toxicity.

Comment author: EHeller 13 January 2014 05:18:02AM 2 points [-]

Why was I downvoted on this?

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 31 December 2013 06:54:27AM 1 point [-]

Thanks. I'll look into that.

Comment author: James_Miller 31 December 2013 08:17:11AM 1 point [-]

Do you take Bulletproof coffee? (Coffee+butter+MCT)

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 31 December 2013 04:01:28PM 1 point [-]

Yes.