hairyfigment comments on Critiquing Gary Taubes, Part 4: What Causes Obesity? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChrisHallquist 30 December 2013 04:12:55PM 7 points [-]

I've heard "Eat Less Exercise More" hundreds of times from tons of people. All the time.

As I'll discuss in the next post, it's good advice. And contrary to what Taubes wants you to think, perfectly compatible with recognizing that the causes of obesity are complicated.

Taubes is attacking "nutrition experts" and the people who make the food pyramid, not elite obesity researchers.

The views Taubes attributes to "nutrition experts" are not only not the views of elite obesity researchers, they're not the views of the FDA, Surgeon General, or anyone else he attributes them to.

I get that you don't like his popsci "I'm a rebel" style...

It's not his style I don't like. It's the substantive and wildly false claims he's making.

...but that should've taken at most 1 post to say.

Some people take Taubes very seriously as a source of scientific information about nutrition, and unless it were a very long post, those people wouldn't have been satisfied.

Comment author: hairyfigment 31 December 2013 09:21:10AM 3 points [-]

I think I detect some disconnect between the experts you refer to, and the medical professionals people actually talk to. (Scene 1 seems most directly relevant, but please read 5-7 as well.) Taubes didn't just invent this.

Comment author: brazil84 31 December 2013 10:02:08AM 3 points [-]

Taubes didn't just invent this.

As I understand it, Taubes claims to be going against the experts. Assuming that's correct, then if there is a disconnect between the experts and medical professionals, it's a separate issue.

That said, if you want to assess the position of medical professionals, I would be wary of going by uncorroborated self-serving doctor stories told by fat activists. Also, the story you cite to is basically of the "I restricted my calories but didn't lose weight" genre. When such claims are investigated they have turned out to be false. Fat people who record their eating tend to wildly under-report caloric intake.