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Good analysis.
What I'm curious about is why Eli Sennesh thinks that a value system like my own is irrational or corrupted.
I don't think they're signaling, I think they genuinely don't want to wirehead, similarly to how everyone genuinely doesn't want to be tortured. I just think that the division between wanting and liking is one of the greatest flaws of human psychology, and when they differ, wanting should be beaten into agreeing with liking.
(nods) Well, I can't speak for Eli, but judging from what they've written I conclude that you and Eli don't even agree on what a hypothetical wireheader's values are. You would say that a wireheader's values are necessarily to wirehead, since they evidently like wireheading... if they didn't, they would stop. I suspect Eli would say that a wireheader's values aren't necessarily to wirehead, since they might not want to wirehead.
Right, I understand; we've had this discussion before. I disagree with you entirely, as I value some of the things I want. But discussing value differences rarely gets anywhere, so I'm happy to leave that there.