SuspiciousTitForTat comments on Stupid Questions Thread - January 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SuspiciousTitForTat 15 January 2014 02:30:26AM 1 point [-]

Society, by survival, in the survival of the fittest sense, stimulates people to be of service, be interesting, useful, effective, and even altruistic.

I suspect, and would like to know your opinion, that we are, for that social and traditional reason biased against a life of personal hedonic exploration, even if for some particular kinds of minds, that means, literally, reading internet comics, downloading movies and multiplayer games for free, exercising near your home, having a minimal amount of friends and relationships, masturbating frequently, and eating unhealthy for as long as the cash lasts.

So two questions, do you think we are biased against these things, and do you think doing this is a problem?

Comment author: DanielLC 16 January 2014 01:04:59AM 1 point [-]

What do you mean by biased? Is there a difference between being biased towards something and desiring to do it?

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 16 January 2014 09:47:29AM 0 points [-]

For example, a bias could be if your prediction of how much you will enjoy X is systematically smaller than how much you actually do enjoy X when you are doing it.

Comment author: DanielLC 17 January 2014 01:51:17AM 0 points [-]

So what you're asking is if people are good at maximizing their own happiness?

We are not. Our happiness is set up to make sure we maximize inclusive genetic fitness. Rather than fixing a bias, evolution can simply account for it. For example, the joy of sex does not compare with the discomfort of pregnancy, but due to time discounting, it's enough to make women want to have sex.

As for what would maximize happiness, I'm not an expert. You'd need to ask a psychologist. I'm given to understand that doing things that at first appear to make you happy will tend to reset your hedonic setpoint and have little effect. The obvious conclusion from that is that no matter what you do, your happiness will be the same, but I'm pretty sure that's not right either. People can change how generally happy they are.

I am in favor of happiness, so all else being equal, I'd prefer it if people were more successful at making themselves happy.

Comment author: somervta 16 January 2014 04:44:23AM 0 points [-]

what do you mean by 'personal hedonic exploration'? The things you list don't sound very exploratory...