TheOtherDave comments on White Lies - Less Wrong

38 Post author: ChrisHallquist 08 February 2014 01:20AM

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Comment author: Oligopsony 08 February 2014 02:36:21PM 2 points [-]

All this needs the disclaimer that some domains should be lie-free zones. I value the truth and despise those who would corrupt intellectual discourse with lies.

Can anyone point me to a defense of corrupting intellectual discourse with lies (that doesn't resolve into a two-tier model of elites or insiders for whom truth is required and masses/outsiders for whom it is not?) Obviously there is at least one really good reason why espousing such a viewpoint would be rare, but I assume that, by the law of large numbers, there's probably an extant example somewhere.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 08 February 2014 04:38:48PM 2 points [-]

Can we taboo "intellectual discourse"? As I think about your question I realize that I'm not sure I understand what that phrase is being used to refer to in this context.

Comment author: Oligopsony 09 February 2014 10:44:10PM -1 points [-]

For present purposes, I suppose it includes any domain including the defense of lying itself.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 09 February 2014 11:08:16PM -1 points [-]

So, I think "a defense of corrupting intellectual discourse with lies" collapses into looking for a defense of lying more generally... would you agree? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, just trying to make sure I've understood you.