Luke_A_Somers comments on Rationality & Low-IQ People - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 03 February 2014 03:01:53PM 4 points [-]

All right. How does this work as pro-rationality propaganda? We're not simply talking about getting rational characters, but getting rationality to appeal to mid- or low-IQ folks.

Comment author: bbleeker 03 February 2014 04:26:50PM -1 points [-]

"Rationalists should win", right? You could show an ordinary person solving a problem because s/he doesn't fall for some bias or other.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 03 February 2014 09:57:26PM *  2 points [-]

If the rationalists win, but normal people don't realize they're rationalists, or what made them so...

Comment author: Nornagest 03 February 2014 10:00:06PM 5 points [-]

...then they avoid a lot of tedious ideological dick-waving.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 04 February 2014 02:58:51AM 2 points [-]

See your post's great grandparent... sure, tedious dick-waving is tedious and dick-waving, but if we're trying to get a point across... maybe I should drop that metaphor.

If we're trying to cultivate appreciation of rationality, it seems inefficient to beat around the... aargh.

Take 3: It seems inefficient to completely neglect to mention rationality.

Comment author: Lumifer 03 February 2014 10:07:30PM 0 points [-]

...and go off to wave their dicks at some other issue :-D

Comment author: bbleeker 04 February 2014 08:50:00AM -1 points [-]

That's why I don't agree with "don't show them thinking, show them doing". Of course, you'd have to show the thinking in ordinary words that a person of normal intelligence who hasn't had a lot of formal education might use. Proverbs might help; they could be part of the way your rationalist thinks, they could be part of the way /she explains things to others, and they could help your reader to remember it later, if/when they encounter similar situations in their own life. And you wouldn't call them a rationalist, that's a 'big word'. Other people would call them 'wise', and they themselves would probably say 'it's just common sense'.