Creutzer comments on Rationality Quotes February 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Creutzer 05 February 2014 04:39:34PM 1 point [-]

Wait, did I miss something? Which change of mind are you referring to?

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 05 February 2014 07:53:26PM 0 points [-]

Not in the sense that he announced a change of mind. More an overall drift.

Comment author: Creutzer 05 February 2014 09:53:03PM 3 points [-]

Well, drift from where to where, then?

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 06 February 2014 01:35:15PM 0 points [-]

The situation would be much better if there were some discernable end point or trajectory to the drift.

Comment author: Creutzer 06 February 2014 02:18:25PM *  0 points [-]

You do realise that, being asked twice, you have failed to provide any substantiation of the claim(s) you're making...

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 06 February 2014 03:37:28PM -1 points [-]

I don't think claims about how something seems to me need independent substantiation.

That there is a definite and uniform LW ethics is not a default: such a claim needs support itself.

Comment author: Creutzer 06 February 2014 03:42:10PM *  0 points [-]

I don't think claims about how something seems to me need independent substantiation.

Oh, come on...

That there is a definite and uniform LW ethics is not a default: such a claim needs support itself.

But that's not the claim under discussion. The claim that we're (well, I'm - you kind of aren't) discussing is that there is a definite and uniform position that one person, namely Eliezer, has laid out in a sequence. I'm not sure how you are supposed to prove that absence of something, in this case a change of mind, by the way...

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 06 February 2014 04:01:23PM 1 point [-]

that there is a definite and uniform position that one person, namely Eliezer, has laid out in a sequence.

That is more of a default; OTOH, I have laid out, in the other subthread, how he has actually embraced four different positions.