Ritalin comments on Open Thread for February 18-24 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Ritalin 23 February 2014 02:03:29AM *  0 points [-]

What's desperate impact? And not all affirmative action is racial. The kind I'm familiar with consists basically of scholarships for smart kids from poor families to go to prestigious schools and reach their full potential, regardless of racial background. And women's parity quotas, which are a clumsy-as-heck-policy that annoys everyone, women included. What kind are you familiar with?

Comment author: asr 23 February 2014 03:27:22AM 8 points [-]

The kind I'm familiar with consists basically of scholarships for smart kids from poor families to go to prestigious schools and reach their full potential, regardless of racial background.

In US political debates about affirmative action, the term usually is meant to imply an overt lower admissions or hiring standard for the group that the affirmative action is supposedly helping.

Scholarships for smart kids from poor families are uncontroversial, and therefore don't come up much in political discourse.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 23 February 2014 02:17:35AM 3 points [-]

What's desperate impact?

Sorry, typo. I meant disparate.

And women's parity quotas, which are a clumsy-as-heck-policy that annoys everyone, women included.

Good, I'm glad you see that this is a bad idea.

What kind are you familiar with?

The kind where universities admit unqualified minority kids in order to have a "diverse student body".

Comment author: Ritalin 23 February 2014 02:20:36AM *  1 point [-]

Do they get qualified along the way, or do they actually prove themselves to be persistently and irredeemably incompetent?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 23 February 2014 02:23:46AM 4 points [-]

They tend to wind up dropping out.

Comment author: Ritalin 23 February 2014 02:26:04AM *  0 points [-]

Regardless of why this is so, wouldn't this outcome make the policy ineffectual and not worth continuing?

Also why in the world did that comment get a down-vote? Is there someone here lurking, down-voting my posts on principle?

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 23 February 2014 02:33:03AM *  2 points [-]

Regardless of why this is so, wouldn't this outcome make the policy ineffectual and not worth continuing?

Yes, but if they were to admit the policy was ineffectual, they'd have to admit that there aren't as many qualified black students as white students and that would be racist and evil.

Comment author: [deleted] 23 February 2014 10:01:07AM 0 points [-]

Doesn't that mean that the ones who don't drop out aren't that less ... than ... ?