Sewing-Machine comments on How to Convince Me That 2 + 2 = 3 - Less Wrong

52 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 September 2007 11:00PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 14 September 2011 05:41:38AM 1 point [-]

I know very well the difference between a collection of axioms and a collection of models of which those axioms are true, thank you.

A lot of people seem to have trouble imagining what it means to consider the hypothesis that SS0+SS0 = SSS0 is true in all models of arithmetic, for purposes of deriving predictions which distinguish it from what we should see given the alternative hypothesis that SS0+SS0=SSSS0 is true in all models of arithmetic, thereby allowing internal or external experience to advise you on which of these alternative hypotheses is true.

Comment author: [deleted] 14 September 2011 05:53:52AM 1 point [-]

Reading your essay I wondered whether it would have been more effective if you had chosen bigger numbers than 2, 2, and 3. e.g. "How to convince me that 67+41 = 112."

Comment author: ec429 14 September 2011 06:05:19AM 7 points [-]

That would have been a damn nuisance, because throughout the rest of this comment thread we'd have been writing unhelpfully long strings of Ss. ;)

Comment author: [deleted] 14 September 2011 06:13:55AM 1 point [-]

I was proud of this comment and I comfort myself with your explanation for why it got the response it did.