ChristianKl comments on Open Thread: March 4 - 10 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 07 March 2014 12:54:20AM *  0 points [-]

Why do you care? Sure, these events might kill us, but do you expect them to influence your decisions?

Two years ago I sat in the audience of the Chaos Computer Congress when Julian Assange said that he got a leaked "North Pole"-confidental report with a list of persons who don't get Christmas presents if they don't do anything to advance politics in the right direction the common year. He handed out a bunch of codes so that everyone who got a code sort of new that he had to do something to get off the list.

I personally made a decision against actively working at Wikileaks or similar causes. I have more private information about myself in the public domain than would be wise if I would make those kinds of political moves myself. I still like to be one of the people who can hold a political conversation on the level that created a project like Wikileaks.

As a community of smart people I don't think it's useful to give up politics completely.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 07 March 2014 01:21:00AM 1 point [-]

I didn't mean to imply that you shouldn't care about any politics, just that this topic sounds like gossip, not an attempt to "advance politics in the right direction."

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 07 March 2014 10:08:53AM *  0 points [-]

Isn't this the worst argument in the world? I don't think this topic is anywhere near the central element of the set "gossip". Gossip is if we talk about the Kardashians.


It's politics, though.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 07 March 2014 04:42:39PM 0 points [-]

Gossip has two meanings. One meaning is talking about people you know. That is real political coalition-building. The other is celebrity gossip, where you fool yourself into thinking that you are doing politics.

Comment author: IlyaShpitser 07 March 2014 05:20:57PM *  -2 points [-]

"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less."

I am sorry, but world politics is just not the same as gossip.

Comment author: ChristianKl 07 March 2014 01:40:33AM *  -2 points [-]

What the BBC writes could be classified as gossip. I don't really disagree on that point.

Reading articles that are really intended to inform about the crisis in the Ukraine is however not gossip. To me it's a major political event. I also live in Europe so it's more important to me as it would be if I would live in the US.

I think that if you want to advance politics in the right direction you first have to understand the playing field. That means understanding major events.

I however won't judge anybody who thinks that dealing with politics isn't worth his time because he doesn't see an effect on his actions.