Stuart_Armstrong comments on Proper value learning through indifference - Less Wrong

16 Post author: Stuart_Armstrong 19 June 2014 09:39AM

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Comment author: Stuart_Armstrong 20 June 2014 09:47:21AM *  6 points [-]

coined the phrase "Cake or Death problem" but I have a suspicion that it was me

Alas, I am the guilty party - I came up with it during an old FHI discussion on value loading.

Comment author: Lumifer 20 June 2014 02:55:49PM 5 points [-]

The "Cake or Death" expression has strong Portal connotations for me :-)

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 June 2014 01:57:06AM 6 points [-]

Huh. Okay, I'm pretty sure I have an actual memory of inventing this, though I was hesitant about saying so. But I also remember inventing it at a fairly recent MIRI workshop, while the term clearly dates back to at least 2012. Maybe I saw and subconsciously remembered, or maybe "Cake or Death" is just the obvious thing to call utility alternatives.

Comment author: katydee 21 June 2014 02:51:08AM *  6 points [-]

"Cake or Death" was part of an Eddie Izzard joke from 1998-- I think it has achieved some kind of widespread memetic success, though, since I've seen it in quite a few places since.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 29 June 2014 08:46:02PM 5 points [-]

You probably do have a memory, it's just false. Human brains do that.