closeness comments on Open Thread, May 26 - June 1, 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: closeness 27 May 2014 05:12:40PM 1 point [-]

I'm thinking of ways to promote effective altruism, such as speaking at colleges and political lobbying. Any thoughts/recommendations?

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2014 07:54:52PM 2 points [-]

and political lobbying

Which political things do you want to lobby for?

Comment author: closeness 27 May 2014 08:10:31PM 1 point [-]

Changing where international aid goes. Regulating charities so they have to apply a criteria showing how effective they spend money. This is in Ireland btw.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2014 08:14:44PM 3 points [-]

they have to apply a criteria showing how effective they spend money.

What measure of effectiveness would you propose such that it is easy to calculate and applicable to all charities?

Comment author: closeness 27 May 2014 08:24:24PM -1 points [-]

I think the easiest way would be to show smallest number of euros per live saved, and charities which have minimal to do with saving lives wouldn't be considered useful at all. Givewell.orgs' charity list seems like the best one to promote, as for charities which work within Ireland, that would be more difficult.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2014 08:26:39PM 3 points [-]

charities which have minimal to do with saving lives wouldn't be considered useful at all

That's a rather... extreme attitude.

So you want a government policy which explicitly says that charities which do not directly save lives are worthless?

Comment author: closeness 27 May 2014 08:34:50PM 0 points [-]

It would be more about informing than enforcing. There are already rules here which make registered charities show where their money goes, so a mechanism for comparing effectiveness wouldn't be a big leap.

Comment author: Lumifer 27 May 2014 08:44:44PM 3 points [-]

so a mechanism for comparing effectiveness wouldn't be a big leap.

I submit that an official government definition of what constitutes the effectiveness of a charity would be a huge leap.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 May 2014 01:16:28AM 1 point [-]

Start a local EA meetup.

Comment author: MathiasZaman 27 May 2014 06:15:36PM 0 points [-]

There was something on the Effective Altruist facebook page (I think) about how political lobbying only really makes a difference if you have a lot of cash to burn.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 May 2014 01:16:25AM 0 points [-]

I think lobbying success depends a lot of the quality of the arguments that you have and your personal abilities. Simply being in a position to tell a politician a good argument that the politician didn't know existed beforehand can change something even if you don't have much money.