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Comment author: raisin 05 June 2014 08:42:21PM *  4 points [-]

I think the most interesting was the discussion about 4chan

You know, Eliezer made that same comparison in his awful and often-referenced “Well-Kept Gardens Die By Pacifism”. It seems to me that 4chan is a wildly successful community, and I can only dream of what a 4chan whose initial core community was made up of aspiring rationalists instead of anime perverts would be like.

The well-kept garden thing obviously hasn't succeeded as planned, so should we be aspiring for some kind of 4chan for rationalists?

Comment author: gwern 11 June 2014 03:04:26PM 6 points [-]

The well-kept garden thing obviously hasn't succeeded as planned, so should we be aspiring for some kind of 4chan for rationalists?

I disagree; LW has succeeded far better than, say, SL4, and better than OB. Despite having just a tiny fraction of the population and activity and a heavily restricted set of topics, SL4 was a much less pleasant forum to use.

Comment author: raisin 12 June 2014 07:02:30AM 2 points [-]

Do you think LW has succeeded because EY attempted to make it a well-kept garden?

Comment author: gwern 12 June 2014 04:00:57PM 6 points [-]

I think it's one of the factors, along with making posting easier, more explicitly trying to foster a community (how many SL4 or OB meetups were there ever?), the content contribution of the Sequences, and using a forum software with pervasive moderation.

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