Manfred comments on Carbon dioxide, climate sensitivity, feedbacks, and the historical record: a cursory examination of the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) hypothesis - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Manfred 08 July 2014 05:29:14PM 2 points [-]

Why does the year 1998 keep showing up? Well, I know an answer, but it's not pretty - it's because it was unusually warm year for the ocean surface (less cold water coming up from below), and thus is a common target for cherrypicking. Every time you pick an outlier as the end of your ranges, you insert bias one way or another - by getting an abnormally high warming rate from "1978-1998" or an abnormally low warming rate from "1998-present" (both used in this post).

This same problem shows up (if your presentation is right) with Easterbrook's claim to have found a sinusoidal cycle in the ocean - a periodic cycle should not end on an unusually warm year for the ocean, it should end on an average year! But 1998's high temperature means you can draw nice straight lines through it as an "elbow" in the graph, so of course it's 1998.

Comment author: HungryHobo 10 July 2014 12:40:46PM 0 points [-]

That would be more shocking if the OP hadn't specifically mentioned this:

Note that 1998 in itself was an unusually warm year due to the El Nino

Comment author: Manfred 10 July 2014 06:01:35PM *  1 point [-]

To allay my concerns I would have also liked to see a discussion about what kind of bias is introduced by the hand-picked intervals that start/end at 1998, or even better using a presentation method like running means that doesn't rely on hand-picked intervals.