Lumifer comments on On Caring - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 09 October 2014 04:43:07AM 2 points [-]

If we pretend - like some in the rationalist community do - that all behavior is morally equivalent and all morals are equal

That's a strawman. I haven't seen anyone say anything like that. What some people do say is that there is no objective standard by which to judge various moralities (that doesn't make them equal, by the way).

there is no social incentive to behave prosocially when possible

Of course there is. Behavior has consequences regardless of morals. It is quite common to have incentives to behave (or not) in certain ways without morality being involved.

moral judgments have their legitimate place in any on-topic discourse.

Why is that?

Comment author: [deleted] 11 October 2014 09:42:18AM 1 point [-]

Of course there is. Behavior has consequences regardless of morals. It is quite common to have incentives to behave (or not) in certain ways without morality being involved.

What do you mean by “morality”? Were the incentives the Heartstone wearer was facing when deciding whether to kill the kitten about morality, or not?

Comment author: Lumifer 14 October 2014 05:40:56PM 1 point [-]

By morality I mean a particular part of somebody's system of values. Roughly speaking, morality is the socially relevant part of the value system (though that's not a hard definition, but rather a pointer to the area where you should search for it).

Comment author: hyporational 09 October 2014 05:38:51AM 0 points [-]

It seems self termination was the most altruistic way of ending the discussion. A tad over the top I think.