JoshuaFox comments on Superintelligence 7: Decisive strategic advantage - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JoshuaFox 28 October 2014 04:15:36PM *  1 point [-]

'Decisive strategic advantage' = a level of technological and other advantages sufficient for complete world domination (p78)

Our canonical example, the Manhattan Project, may have been at that level. If the US had chosen to attack Soviet cities with the few atom bombs that they had in the first year, then quickly replenishing their supply quickly while the Soviet Union remained off-balance (scary thought), the US could have dominated the world. Thankfully, they did not, but it does suggest that a superweapon used without moral constraint could have world-dominating effect.

Comment author: KatjaGrace 28 October 2014 06:37:57PM 3 points [-]

Plausible, though note that while the US (a large fraction of the world) may have dominated the world by that route, it would have been hard for any small group involved to do so.

Comment author: CellBioGuy 28 October 2014 11:38:33PM 1 point [-]

And very hard for them to KEEP domination.

Comment author: Lumifer 28 October 2014 04:33:25PM 4 points [-]

Alternate history is not falsifiable, of course, but that scenario doesn't look all that likely to me. Russia successfully recovered from losing a very large chunk of its territory, a great deal of its army, and most of its manufacturing capacity to Germans in 1941-1942. Losing a few cities (even assuming the bombers could get through -- there were no ICBMs and Russia in 1945 had a pretty good air force and AA capabilities) would not cripple Russia. I would guess that it would just incentivize it to roll over the remainder of Europe. It's not like Stalin ever cared about casualties.

Comment author: Larks 01 December 2014 02:53:20AM 1 point [-]

Good point, but I think Bostrom's point about risk aversion does much to ameliorate it. If the US had had a 50% chance of securing global hegemonicy, and a 50% chance of destruction from such a move, it probably would not have done it. A non-risk-averse, non-deontological AI, on the other hands, with its eye on the light cone, might consider the gamble worthwhile.

Comment author: JoshuaFox 28 October 2014 04:37:19PM 0 points [-]

Quite right, hard to tell.