lemonfreshman comments on The Argument from Crisis and Pessimism Bias - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lemonfreshman 14 November 2014 01:44:17AM 0 points [-]

You're saying that effectiveness of the rhetoric causes a biased negative view of reality. You haven't provided much evidence that the world is not getting worse, in specific ways relevant to the specific pessimism in question. I've seen Moldbug post of graph of assaults/stabbings etc... in England from 1900 to 2000. It went up by a factor of 30. You also have to consider that modern tech allows for the consequences of violence to be ameliorated. Technological progress masks moral decline. It's genuinely hard to compare today to the past because we don't live there and we have to rely on others accounts of it. Britain used to be a thriving superpower, now its filled with idiots, immigrants, and people on the dole. It's really sad. Life is going quite well for perhaps the top 10? 15%? of people who live in a bubble and isolate themselves from the consequences of their political beliefs which they put on to look good in the eyes of others. The public perception of history is often made by power structures like universities to have a self serving narrative about how the past was evil. I think it is strange that you are even focusing on this when Eliezer's project relies so much on the fear of a computer dooming humanity.

Comment author: ChristianKl 15 November 2014 04:02:46PM 1 point [-]

I've seen Moldbug post of graph of assaults/stabbings etc... in England from 1900 to 2000.

Could you provide a link?

Comment author: lemonfreshman 17 November 2014 04:22:24AM 1 point [-]
Comment author: lemonfreshman 17 November 2014 04:12:35AM 1 point [-]