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Comment author: fubarobfusco 07 December 2014 05:34:49PM 2 points [-]

Do not ask whether a politician Believes in Global Warming. Ask whether that politician would want their kids to inherit a nice house in South Miami.

(But beware: if this trick gets around, politicians will buy or sell their Florida real estate in order to signal tribal allegiance.)

Comment author: Manfred 07 December 2014 07:59:21PM *  9 points [-]

New business model - marketing land vulnerable to climate change or sea level rise specifically to people who want to signal that they don't believe those things will happen.

Warning: implementing this may cost you one (1) soul.

Comment author: bogus 07 December 2014 10:37:25PM 7 points [-]

Why not market housing in "vibrant" and "diverse" neighborhoods to people who are politically supportive of immigration?

Oh wait, we tried that already, and it didn't work - they all want to live in "safe" places with "good" schools. Bummer.

Comment author: ChristianKl 08 December 2014 03:20:42PM 0 points [-]

In Berlin plenty of people want to live in vibrant neighborhoods.

Comment author: alienist 10 December 2014 02:27:12AM 6 points [-]

I believe "vibrant" is a euphemism for has plenty of low-IQ-high-crime sub-populations. In particular I doubt Germans want to live in the Muslim neighborhoods.

Comment author: ChristianKl 10 December 2014 02:42:38AM 1 point [-]

Berlin Kreuzberg has a high migrant population and is somewhere where people want to live.

Comment author: Alsadius 07 December 2014 10:19:21PM 1 point [-]

Why would it cost you a soul? This is Prediction Markets 101 - people buy and sell possessions that have different values based on predictions of future outcomes based on their belief in those outcomes.

Comment author: Manfred 07 December 2014 10:42:08PM *  1 point [-]

Sure, and the people on cigarette marketing teams are just informing people to help them make rational choices in the market.

Comment author: Alsadius 08 December 2014 02:51:47AM 0 points [-]

Assuming they follow truth in advertising rules, that is an unironically correct statement. Different cigarettes differ, and I see no reason to believe that advertising can't help one tobacco company poach customers from another. Some people choose to start smoking as well, and they're legitimate targets for advertising. Advertising isn't all about convincing new customers to start your product category at all.

Comment author: Azathoth123 08 December 2014 05:09:08AM *  0 points [-]

So by that standard almost no politicians believe in global warming.

Notice how all the rich actors who show up at charity events to "fight global warming" are also lining up to buy beach front property. (They also tend to fly around in private jets, but that's a separate issue.)

Edit: The reason I didn't use politicians in the above example is that not all politicians can afford beachfront property and the ability to do so correlates with other things that may be relevant to whether you want him in power.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 08 December 2014 03:53:54PM 3 points [-]

Notice how all the rich actors who show up at charity events to "fight global warming" are also lining up to buy beach front property.

Evidence?

Comment author: [deleted] 10 December 2014 07:44:54AM *  -1 points [-]
Comment author: BoilingLeadBath 10 December 2014 12:05:18AM 1 point [-]

As a possibility, buying current beach-front property is consistent with believing in global warming if you also believe that it is hard enough to predict where the new beach-front will be that it is cheaper (say, per future-discounted year of residence) to buy property on the current beach and then at the new location of the beach, than it is to buy any combination of properties today.

The inheritance question is actually rather different, as it is about buying beach-front-property-futures in the present.