gwern comments on Open thread, Dec. 8 - Dec. 15, 2014 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: gwern 16 December 2014 02:59:58AM *  2 points [-]

Which studies there are you referring to as being relevant?

...So in your view, what precisely is the reason for the fact that the percentage of female CS students was consistently rising and then took a sharp drop-off?

If you aren't going to read the links I provided*, I'm not going to bother continuing. Both of those questions were answered.

* please note I have already gone above and beyond in not just reading your source material while you have not, but jailbreaking & critiquing that study, and also excerpting & linking contrary opinions & surveys

Comment author: JoshuaZ 16 December 2014 05:13:44AM -1 points [-]

If you aren't going to read the links I provided*, I'm not going to bother continuing. Both of those questions were answered.

I read the conversation with Kaj and I read the links thank you very much. In that conversation you brought up a variety of different issues, focusing on the "practicality" issue but you give multiple different versions of that claim and I'm not completely sure what your primary hypothesis is. The primary claim there seems to be that the ups and downs on the graph mirror ups and downs in the market, but the primary link justifying that claim is this one you gave which doesn't make any claim other than the simple claim that the graphs match without even showing that they do. The only bit there is there that is genuinely interesting evidence is the survey showing that women pay more attention to job prospects when considering fields which is not at all sufficient to explain the size of the drop there, nor the fact that law didn't show a similar drop in the last few years when there's been a glut of lawyers.

please note I have already gone above and beyond in not just reading your source material while you have not

I don't know where you are getting the second part of that claim from. But it is true I didn't read every single link in the Kaj conversation, and I'm not sure why you think reading a single study is on the same scale as reading an additional long conversation and every single link there. So if you want to point to which of those links matter there, I'd be happy to look at them.