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Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 25 July 2015 07:50:50AM 0 points [-]

If you want something more quantitative, Muslim polls reveal that 11% of UK Muslims believe that the Charlie Hebdo magazine "deserved" to be attacked. This really doesn't look like assimilation.

This doesn't say much unless we know the corresponding fraction among Muslims worldwide is not much larger than 11%.

Comment author: Journeyman 26 July 2015 07:40:54PM 3 points [-]

I think your implication is that Muslims are assimilating if their attitudes are shifting towards Western values after immigration. But assimilation isn't just about a delta, it's also about the end state: assimilation isn't complete until Muslims adopt Western values.

Unfortunately, there is overlap between European and non-European Muslim attitudes towards suicide bombing based on polls. France's Muslim population is especially radical. Even if they are slowly assimilating, their starting point is far outside Western values.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 26 July 2015 07:47:47PM *  0 points [-]

Well, Acty's hypothesis was that they have started assimilating but still haven't finished doing so. But thanks for the data.

(Who on Earth thought that that bulleted list of sentences in that Wikipedia article is a decent way of presenting those data, anyway? I hope I'll have the time to make a bar chart, or at least a table. And how comes my spell checker doesn't like either "bulleted" or "bulletted"?)