ilzolende comments on Open thread, Jan. 19 - Jan. 25, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ilzolende 19 January 2015 08:04:32AM 13 points [-]

Assuming you just want people throwing ideas at you:

Make it illegal to communicate in cleartext? Add mandatory cryptography classes to schools? Requiring everyone to register a public key and having a government key server? Not compensating identity theft victims and the like if they didn't use good security?

Comment author: VincentYu 19 January 2015 12:11:24PM 7 points [-]

Requiring everyone to register a public key

This is already the case in Estonia, where every citizen over the age of 14 has a government-issued ID card containing two X.509 RSA key pairs. TLS client authentication is widely deployed for Estonian web services such as internet banking.

(Due to ideological differences regarding the centralization of trust, I think it's unlikely that governments will adopt OpenPGP over X.509.)

Comment author: [deleted] 19 January 2015 12:29:04PM 1 point [-]

Giving people an official RSA keypair in their smartcard government IDs is fine. That solves all sorts of problems, and enables a bunch of really cool tech.

Requiring that every public key used in any context be registered with the government, or worse, some sort of key escrow, is a totally different matter.

Comment author: ilzolende 20 January 2015 12:25:25AM 2 points [-]

I was thinking less "everyone must register all their public keys, and you can't have a second identity with its own key" and more "everyone has to have at least 1 public key officially associated with them so that they can sign things and be sent stuff securely." And that Estonian system sounds pretty cool.

Comment author: Alsadius 20 January 2015 04:23:22AM 1 point [-]

What would you estimate the probability of ever having the former without the latter being? Of having that happy state last for more than a few years?

Comment author: [deleted] 20 January 2015 02:46:15PM 3 points [-]

Well the former pretty much describes the current state of affairs. Anyone with a government ID card or national healthcare ID probably has a chip embedded with an escrowed signing key. There's really nothing unique about Estonia here -- they're using the same system everyone else is using. Even if your country, like the USA, doesn't have a national ID of some kind or doesn't have a chip embedded, your passport does. The international standard governing "smart passports" being issued by just about every country in existence for the past 5-10 years includes embedded digital signature capability.

Now I don't really know how to estimate the probability of sliding into the latter case. I don't see them as intrinsically connected however.

Comment author: Lumifer 20 January 2015 06:22:23PM 2 points [-]

Generating private/public key pairs is trivially easy.