Houshalter comments on Open thread, Aug. 03 - Aug. 09, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Houshalter 08 August 2015 08:34:16PM 0 points [-]

Would you describe this as "necessarily so"?

Because they own a giant, expensive home, with a garage filled with expensive toys.

Which is why it might be relevant that this is in a suburb of Toronto--i.e. someone who lives here and works in the city probably has an hour-long commute.

Perhaps, but that is not what the article said at all. He was judging them entirely based on a picture of their garage, and the fact that they owned motorcycles and ATVs. He didn't try to estimate how much gas they use per day. He looked at a photo and noticed it didn't have the aesthetic of environmentalism.

Comment author: Vaniver 09 August 2015 03:48:15AM 0 points [-]

Because they own a giant, expensive home, with a garage filled with expensive toys.

Wealth typically refers to one's assets minus one's liabilities; evidence of assets does not suffice to demonstrate wealth. My point was that you are putting forward a reasonable general claim that is not necessarily true--even if this particular home seller is underwater on their mortgage, similar people exist that are not and one would expect the latter group to be more likely--at the same time that you are criticizing Heath for putting forward a reasonable general claim that is not necessarily true--people who own multiple ATVs and motorcycles and live an hour from the city probably consume more gasoline than the average Canadian and are unlikely to be a strong supporter of the environmentalist political coalition.