Technoguyrob comments on Beautiful Math - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Technoguyrob 21 December 2011 09:37:56PM *  1 point [-]

This is obvious after you learn calculus. The "nth difference" corresponds to nth derivative (a sequence just looks at integer points of a real-valued function), so clearly a polynomial of degree n has constant nth derivative. It would be even more accurate to say that an nth antiderivative of a constant is precisely a degree n polynomial.

Comment author: [deleted] 21 December 2011 09:41:18PM 0 points [-]

Iterated finite differences correspond to derivatives in some non-obvious way I can't remember (and can't be bothered to find out).

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 21 December 2011 10:49:56PM 0 points [-]

Notice that the result doesn't hold if the points aren't evenly spaced, so the solution must use this fact.

Comment author: Sniffnoy 21 December 2011 11:12:57PM *  1 point [-]

Differences and derivatives are not the same, though there is the obvious analogy. If you want to take derivatives and antiderivatives, you want to write in the x^k basis or the x^k/k! basis. If you want to take differences and sums, you want to write in the falling factorial basis or the x choose k basis.

Comment author: Technoguyrob 22 December 2011 01:35:44AM 1 point [-]

If you get a non constant, yes. For a linear function, f(a+1) - f(a) = f'(a). Inductively you can then show that the nth one-step difference of a degree n polynomial f at a point a is f^(n)(a). But this doesn't work for anything but n. Thanks for pointing that out!

Comment author: Sniffnoy 22 December 2011 02:06:16AM 0 points [-]

Ah, yes, that's a good point, because the leading coefficient be the same whether you use the x^k basis or the falling factorial basis.

Comment author: TRManderson 02 August 2013 12:36:44PM 0 points [-]

Neither finite differences nor calculus are new to me, but I didn't pick up the correlation between the two until now, and it really is obvious.

This is why I love mathematics - there's always a trick hidden up the sleeve!