Lumifer comments on Open thread, Sep. 21 - Sep. 27, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 06 October 2015 05:31:15PM -1 points [-]

I am also a big fan of NOT black-and-white worlds.

"Ultimately lead to less freedom" -- how do you know that? Can you show me some probability distribution of outcomes? How certain are you of it? What is the probability that you are making a sign error?

At the moment all I see is mood affiliation.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 12 October 2015 09:11:31PM -1 points [-]

"Ultimately lead to less freedom" -- how do you know that?

Broken homes means the government winds up having to resolve issues that should have been dealt with in-family, e.g., now the government must decide a lot more child custody disputes. Not to mention that children growing up in broken homes are likely to wind up on welfare and other government assistance.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 October 2015 11:40:11PM 0 points [-]

I am entirely unconvinced.

children growing up in broken homes are likely to wind up on welfare and other government assistance.

Is that true for normal-IQ reasonably financially successful (former) families? I don't think so.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 18 October 2015 09:32:26PM -2 points [-]

What do you consider "normal"-IQ and "reasonably" financially successful? Yes, high IQ and wealth can mitigate the problems of growing up in a broken home. However, putting most below-average IQ people on welfare is no something that is compatible with maintaining a high-freedom state.

Comment author: Lumifer 19 October 2015 03:41:53PM 0 points [-]

This slo-mo poking isn't terribly exciting. Do you have a position you want to take, maybe quote some facts in its support? It's not like this discussion will affect real-life policies, so can we at least make it a bit more interesting?