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These are so embarrassing. Can we please be less dorky. I don't think these are gonna win people over, they're gonna make us seem like a weird subculture.
You were doing 1000x better in 2004. What's got in to you lately?
Unfortunately I have to admit that I agree. To me those clothes don't look stylish.
One of the people who frequently attends our local LW meetup wears Chaos Computer Club branded clothing. That's clothing that signals being a hacker and it looks stylish.
It might be worth to take those slogans and go to fiverr and ask people to design a T-Shirt that presents the slogan.
I'd be glad to hear about ways of making the t-shirts look more stylish. That would be a good conversation to have :-)
I'm not good at fashion design and making things pretty.
I would go to Fiverr and give a few people a slogan around which to design a T-Shirt and hope for the best. If you don't like something about a design you give suggestions for improvement.
At best you get a person who knows a bit about style to help you with this. Either a guy who's well dressed or a woman.
Christian, I did something like that with the designs we have, namely hire someone to design them. Would be good to get some clearer ideas on what would be a preferable style. Can you find a few shirt styles you like, and link to them?
I'm a little surprised you hired someone for those designs. May I ask how much you paid? Quite honestly, you could've gotten the same design from a middle school student taking a graphic design class. This is fine if you're doing it yourself, but if you're paying for it, well, I think I could do better for free, and I've got absolutely no qualifications in the field.
I know what kind of designs appeal to a subset of society, but I guess we'd have to figure out who your target audience for those t-shirts are. It might not be anyone here, or anyone with the privilege of appreciating art, though the fact that you're publishing in sites like LifeHacker suggests otherwise.
It's the old argument with car dealership and personal injury/family/divorce law ads. Yes, they're not pleasing to you and me, but they may work for their intended audience.
However, I think there's something to be said for aesthetically pleasing designs, especially those that are universal enough to carry across a large number of cultures.
You can take a look at the general designer zeitgeist at portfolio websites like Behance and Dribble.
In addition to Fiverr, there's also 99designs and others. Plenty of t-shirt websites now use the contest format, as well, and you can look at submissions to see the kinds of designs that are given a chance.
I hired a friend who is a website designer, has graphic design skills, and was interested in Intentional Insights as a project, so was willing to cut a deal for managing the design of the T-shirts and the backend of Cafepress alike.
Yeah, I hear you about the aesthetic appeal. I made a new post here asking people to give feedback on some design ideas.
Please help improve the designs of the t-shirts - more in this post. Thanks!
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I think that t-shirts like that are going to appeal to other people, not only LWers. Most slogans are popular here, but they might appeal to people who do not even know what LW is.
Metal bands have their t-shirts and very often they are worn even by the people who don't listen to that band.
Most of those T-Shirts look more stylish than the one's we have here.
You're dating yourself X-D
Please help optimize the designs of the t-shirts - more in this post. Thanks!
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Please don't spam the same comment to different threads.
Yup, we test-ran these slogans by non-Less Wrongers, specifically reason-oriented college students who were members of the Secular Student Alliance, and these proved interesting to them. We specifically avoided ones that were not interesting to them.
Please help optimize the designs of the t-shirts - more in this post. Thanks!
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My purpose was to tell each person who participated in the discussion about the new post. I see now that my doing so may be perceived as spam. Appreciate you pointing this out, and I will avoid doing so in the future. Thanks!
If you feel that individuals need notifying of something individually, there's a private-message system for that.
Good point! Didn't think of it :-( I will use that in the future.
Please help improve the designs of the t-shirts - more in this post. Thanks!
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I respect your opinion about the slogans. However, let's recall that these were the slogans that Less Wrongers submitted and upvoted. I'd be glad to go with others if there are additonal suggestions that get support :-)
It's not the slogans that are bad, it's the design. I'm a retailer by trade- these are not set up to appeal to many.
Ah, gotcha, thanks for clarifying. So as a retailer, do you have ideas on how to figure out a good design?
Please help optimize the designs of the t-shirts - more in this post. Thanks!
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