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You mean you move your mouth and those words come out?
(I apologize if I'm not understanding your point/question.)
As for what words I actually speak, sometimes I say something along the lines of along the lines of "It's ok, your intuition still means something".
I asked what you do and you said something that's not what you do.
In my model most people don't explicitely update at all but let their brains shift beliefs in the way the brain is accustomed to do.
This is certainly what most people do in fact, but it is a bad idea, because it means that normally a person who hears something he disagrees with simply ignores it, even when there are good reasons not to do so.
In the moment where I hear someone I consider to be a programming expert saying that 'programming needs system I to be done well', beliefs in my brain shift pretty automatically in that direction without any direct intervention. I don't think I have even the option to not let it affect my beliefs.
Fine, but that could be because you had no strong opinion on the matter in the first place opposed to that, or because you are unusual.
I don't think so. It's very normal human process that beliefs change when you hear a person you consider authoritative making an argument.
Beliefs get mostly changed by system I and we don't even have system II direct write access to them.
I disagree; I think we have direct write access to nearly everything that matters about our beliefs.
If that would be true a person with social anxiety could simply overwrite the beliefs that make them uncomfortable because they think other people are judging them.
Yes, it's a learnable skill. Stage hypnotists exist.
You asked what mental operation I do. In my head, I do say "X is more likely to be true".
'Say' is usually a word that refers to verbal experssion.
Are you saying that you do have "X is more likely to be true" as a voice in your head?
Yes.
I had a discussion with Gilbert a while ago about the meaning of updating in the comments on his post here.