Clarity comments on Open thread, December 7-13, 2015 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Clarity 10 December 2015 11:49:55AM *  6 points [-]

Some uncomfortable questions I've asked myself lately:

  • Could you without intentionally listening to music for 30 days?

  • I recall being taught to argue towards the predetermined point of view in schools and extra-curriculum activities like debating. Is that counterproductive or suboptimal?

  • Listening back to a recording I made of a therapy session when I was quite mentally ill, I feel amazed at just how much I have improved. I am appalled by the mode of thought of that young person. What impression do the people around me have that they won't discuss openly?

  • Aren't storm water drain explorer's potentially mapping out critical infrastructure which may be targetted more easily by terrorists? One way I see these things going is commercial drain tours. That way there would be a legitimised presence there and perhaps enhanced security.

  • something to be asked of academia

  • Imagine a person was abused for a large part of their childhood and is subsequently traumatised and mentally ill, then, upon regaining greater functioning as an adult decides to extort their abusive parents for money with the threat of exposing them while still counting on inheritence, instead of simply going to the authorities and approaching a legal settlement (expecting that will cut of any pleasant relations). Are there actions unconscionable? What would you do in their situation?

  • If I went straight to a family member without preparing them in advance would they consent to my cryonics application? to support a cryonics application?

  • Do most people really think like this?

  • The rate at which I come up with ideas that I feel are worthwhile business ventures is unmanageable. So, I’ll take a leaf out of the EA Ventures method webpage by asking: what are three existing organizations that are doing similar things and why aren’t you joining them?

Comment author: OrphanWilde 10 December 2015 03:35:31PM 5 points [-]

Upvoting for applied learning: Previously these would each be their own comment; you asked what you were doing wrong, somebody mentioned the number of comments, and you appear to have updated your behavior.

Comment author: ChristianKl 10 December 2015 12:34:38PM 2 points [-]

upon regaining greater functioning as an adult decides to extort their abusive parents for money with the threat of exposing them while still counting on inheritence

Extortion is by definition illegal on the other hand making an informal settelement is quite okay. It depends a lot on the details.

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 16 December 2015 04:05:25AM 3 points [-]

Imagine a person was abused for a large part of their childhood and is subsequently traumatised and mentally ill, then, upon regaining greater functioning as an adult decides to extort their abusive parents for money with the threat of exposing them while still counting on inheritence, instead of simply going to the authorities and approaching a legal settlement (expecting that will cut of any pleasant relations). Are there actions unconscionable? What would you do in their situation?

Depends on what you mean by "abuse"? A lot of what's been called "child abuse", e.g., spanking, isn't. On the other hand, legitimate abuse happens as well.

Comment author: Clarity 17 December 2015 07:15:31PM -2 points [-]

What is an example of 'legitimate abuse'?

Comment author: VoiceOfRa 17 December 2015 07:43:27PM *  2 points [-]

This for example.

Comment author: Artaxerxes 12 December 2015 03:46:03AM *  1 point [-]

I recall being taught to argue towards the predetermined point of view in schools and extra-curriculum activities like debating. Is that counterproductive or suboptimal?

This has been talked about before. One suggestion is to not make it a habit.

Comment author: Jiro 10 December 2015 03:25:12PM *  1 point [-]

Imagine a person was abused for a large part of their childhood and is subsequently traumatised and mentally ill, then...

Withholding an inheritance from someone because you abused him and he dared to take you to court is unethical. So this "extortion" is being used as the only way to get compensation while avoiding being the victim of further unethical behavior.

So no, it's not unconscionable, although whether it's legally extortion would require asking a lawyer.

Comment author: passive_fist 13 December 2015 12:06:44AM 0 points [-]

Listening back to a recording I made of a therapy session when I was quite mentally ill, I feel amazed at just how much I have improved. I am appalled by the mode of thought of that young person. What impression do the people around me have that they won't discuss openly?

If you find yourself alternating between different psychological moods every few months, appalled by how you used to think, you may be suffering from bipolar disorder. Since you go to a therapist I assume that if you have it, it's been diagnosed by now, so I'm mostly saying this for the benefit of people reading this.

Comment author: Artaxerxes 12 December 2015 03:37:46AM 0 points [-]

Could you without intentionally listening to music for 30 days?

Can you rephrase this?