TheOtherDave comments on Circular Altruism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TheOtherDave 29 November 2013 06:21:47PM 3 points [-]

I would not submit to 50 years of torture to avert a dust speck in the eyes of lots of people.
I suspect I also would not submit to 50 years of torture to avert a stranger being subjected to 55 years of torture.
It's not clear to me what, if anything, I should infer from this.

Comment author: hyporational 30 November 2013 07:18:38AM *  1 point [-]

Ready the tar and feather, but I woudn't submit myself to even 1 year of torture to avert a stranger being tortured 50 years if no terrible social repercussions could be expected.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 30 November 2013 03:40:42PM 0 points [-]

Yup. I suspect that's true of the overwhelming majority of people. It's most likely true of me.

Comment author: [deleted] 30 November 2013 09:37:04AM 2 points [-]

That you value yourself more than a stranger. (I don't think there's anything wrong with that, BTW, so long as this doesn't mean you'd defect in a PD against them.)

Comment author: TheOtherDave 30 November 2013 03:43:47PM 0 points [-]

Sure. Sorry, what I meant was it's not clear what I should infer from this about the relative harmfulness of 50 years of torture, 55 years of torture, and Dust Specks.

Mostly, what it seems to imply is that "would I choose A over B?" doesn't necessarily have much to do with the harmfulness to the system as a whole of A and B.