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My understanding is that Alder thought we all start with an inferiority complex because we all start as small, weak children.
Even if that's true, I don't think it implies that all "All human interaction is manipulation". It only implies that a lot of it is at it's driven by an inferiority complex.
I think "all human interaction is manipulation" is false on its face. I was putting forward Adler as a candidate for being a modern root of this meme. His teachings are still quite influential.
The fact that you consider a statement to be false on its face doesn't mean that there nobody in support of it. Pointing me to a different meme is besides the point.
Please be a little bit more charitable. He pointed you to a quite relevant quote and gave examples. That this source doesn't exactly cover what you want covered is not his fault. He can't read your mind.
I think that clarity of distinguishing different ideas from each other is useful. I think that it's bad to be to vague to be wrong. In this case I think that _rpd simply switched from one meme to a different meme. I don't think it takes mind reading to see the difference between A: "all human interaction is manipulation" and B: "a lot of human interaction is manipulation because people are acting out of inferority" .
A get's used to justify that being manipulative isn't bad, because everybody is always manipualtive. B doesn't lend itself to that conclusion and is thus a completely different meme.
In particular A get's used that way in this article. Asking for favors that way might be manipulative but that doesn't matter as all communication is manipulative.