Lumifer comments on Open thread, Jan. 18 - Jan. 24, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 25 January 2016 05:16:48PM 2 points [-]

Most vegetarians would probably think that animals that are engineered to be unable to suffer have a blissful ignorance problem; they are being harmed and just don't realize it.

Do carrots have a blissful ignorance problem, then?

Comment author: Jiro 25 January 2016 06:27:57PM *  0 points [-]

The problem only exists for beings with some sort of mind that has moral relevance. I would guess that most vegetarians believe that animals have such a mind, but not carrots.

Comment author: Lumifer 25 January 2016 08:16:56PM 1 point [-]

So what happens when you engineer a "mind that has moral relevance" out of an animal?

And going a bit upthread, what do you mean by acts that are "bad in themselves"?

Comment author: Jiro 25 January 2016 10:10:02PM 1 point [-]

I'm not a vegetarian myself. I was just describing how people think. I don't know that they have a coherent concept of "acts that are bad in themselves".

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