OrphanWilde comments on AI Fiction - Crystal Society - Less Wrong

1 Post author: Gleb_Tsipursky 26 January 2016 11:51PM

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Comment author: OrphanWilde 27 January 2016 03:54:07PM 4 points [-]

I didn't downvote it, but I'm tempted to. Granted, I hardly represent Less Wrong, but as for me, this seems like... reputation farming? But that perception is influenced by my perception of you. Given that my perceptions aren't too unusual, some of the downvotes are going to be for the reason that it feels like you're manipulating people into liking you by playing a role that you think is expected of you.

Others will be because you're playing the role badly; as mentioned elsewhere, this would be more appropriate in an Open Thread or Media Thread, and indeed has shown up in one of those before. Some of them might suspect you're karma farming by taking advantage of the higher karma associated with upvotes on posts than comments.

Comment author: gjm 27 January 2016 05:03:38PM 0 points [-]

higher karma associated with upvotes on posts than comments

If you mean the 10x factor, that only applies in Main. If you mean that the same thing is likely to get more upvotes if it's a post than if it's only an open-thread comment, well, empirically it seems not to be true in this case.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 27 January 2016 05:51:40PM 1 point [-]

Hm. I swear there used to be a 3x multiplier on Discussion posts.

Comment author: gjm 27 January 2016 05:58:15PM 0 points [-]

I just explicitly checked (apologies to Gleb_Tsipursky, author of the most recent Discussion post, if he happened to be watching his karma while it wobbled up and down). Definitely 1x.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 27 January 2016 09:05:18PM -1 points [-]

It's indeed 1X.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 27 January 2016 09:09:29PM -1 points [-]

I'm not really interested in reputation farming, I have a quite high enough level of karma.

I'm simply excited about the book and thought is was valuable enough to give it higher attention than just an open thread. But I see now what the motivation of people would be downvote it, and will duly update. Thanks!

Comment author: OrphanWilde 27 January 2016 09:34:53PM 2 points [-]

Reputation, as distinct from karma. Karma-farming is, roughly, engaging in low-content posts/comments to get upvotes. Reputation farming is engaging in low-effort activities to get people to think better/higher of you (or of a cause or idea you are representing, or attempting to represent). Most people only engage in it when they feel like their reputation is slipping, or is at risk of slipping.

I'd say it's one of the most basic tools in the dark arts toolbox. If you aren't intentionally engaging in it, to such extent as you are committed to using rational dark arts, you probably should be, just don't let people -notice- that you're doing it, because people don't like feeling manipulated, and it becomes counterproductive.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 27 January 2016 09:57:22PM -1 points [-]

I think reputation management like that is too advanced for me, I have way too many other things to do :-) I hope those activities will let people determine their reputation of me. But thanks for the info, it's good to know what people do regarding managing their reputation, I will try to notice when that occurs.