RainbowSpacedancer comments on Open Thread Feb 22 - Feb 28, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: RainbowSpacedancer 26 February 2016 06:44:25PM *  0 points [-]

The problem isn't simply clarity.

In this case it is. I believe I have been less than clear again.

The frame of mind of treating a conversation with your friends as PR is not useful for getting your friends to trust you and positively respond to what you are saying.

Agreed - but I've never done that. The conversations are ordinary in that I share rationality in the same way I would share a book or movie I've enjoyed. It is "I enjoy X, you should try it I bet you would enjoy it too" as opposed to, "I want to spread X and my friends are good targets for that." I literally meant I relabeled an ordinary conversation as PR, not that I was in the spread rationality mindset. My brain did a thing where,

'I'm having trouble sharing rationality with friends in a way that doesn't happen with my other interests. I bet other rationalists have similar problems. I wonder if there is any PR material on LW that might help with this.'

... and boom my brain labels it as a PR problem. I'm trying to not get caught up in the words here, do you follow my meaning?

Your recommendations on talking about the value rationality brings me look good. Thank you for them.

Comment author: ChristianKl 26 February 2016 08:55:00PM 0 points [-]

The conversations are ordinary in that I share rationality in the same way I would share a book or movie I've enjoyed.

We don't enjoy a topic as diverse as rationality in the same way we enjoy a book or movie. A book or movie is a much more concrete experience.

You could speak about individual books like Kahnmann's instead of using the label rationality.