pseudobison comments on Open Thread Feb 22 - Feb 28, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pseudobison 29 February 2016 09:17:56AM -1 points [-]

That's the point of the article: agriculture allowed the Earth to support a vastly larger human population than it could have otherwise, but at a cost.

Personally I'm more optimistic than the author of the article I linked that the median quality of life of a human on Planet Earth will ultimately exceed the median quality of life of a human on an Earth where agriculture had never been developed -- in fact I think there's a good chance that that's already the case. But I don't think it's completely obvious, for reasons the author describes in detail.

Comment author: Lumifer 29 February 2016 04:00:23PM 3 points [-]

but at a cost

Your claim was that it "remains to be seen" (whether agriculture turned out pretty well). I don't think it stands. Everything has a cost.

I am aware of the Jared Diamond arguments, but note that they are based on comparison between ancient hunter-gatherers and ancient farmers. Contemporary agriculture is a wee bit different -- in particular, note the diversity of food it provides, as well as its ability to deliver food out of local season.