TheAncientGeek comments on Suppose HBD is True - Less Wrong

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Comment author: TheAncientGeek 23 April 2016 11:52:59AM *  -1 points [-]

Noble lies we approve of seem to us to be truths. Noble lies we dont approve approve seem to plain old lies..."crazy, obviously false things". So almost everybody thinks they are living ina Noble Lie free world.

Noble lies of the right include "my tribe is objectively better than everyone else's" and "his majesty was placed on the theone, by God". Obsessing about four point differences in IQ is a version of the former.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 23 April 2016 12:54:46PM 1 point [-]

Noble lies we approve of seem to us to be truths.

Doesn't seem that way to me. If I tell a Noble Lie, I don't believe it (in the epistemic sense), but intend others to do so. If I spread a claim I think is true and it is in fact false, I'm just spreading a falsehood that I'm unaware of.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 23 April 2016 02:53:41PM -1 points [-]

If what I say is correct, you would not be able to tell, solipsistically, if you believed in any lies that seemed true to you. You need to start with other people's lies, in particular by thinking about how persistent crazy ideas could fulfil an instrumentaal purpose.