SquirrelInHell comments on Rationality test: Vote for trump - Less Wrong

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Comment author: SquirrelInHell 17 June 2016 01:15:03AM 0 points [-]

If there's such a small chance of your vote making a difference in the election

Wrong.

Comment author: pwno 23 June 2016 08:41:29PM 0 points [-]

How's that related?

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 24 June 2016 01:21:45AM 1 point [-]

In short, your decision not to vote after rational deliberation means it is approximately correct for other voters to think in the same way. This works like a classical cooperation game. TDT prescribes to commit to a small personal cost for a big community gain, in a similar way as one-boxing in Newcomb.

Comment author: entirelyuseless 24 June 2016 04:34:26AM 0 points [-]

I don't have the same algorithm as others, and if I did, it would be good enough to choose one of us at random to be responsible. Taking votes from everyone would be highly inefficient.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 24 June 2016 05:26:33AM 1 point [-]

No. First, in case of humans this works by approximation, not exact copy. Second, you don't know what is the group of people who think in a similar way as you (clearly not all voters).

Comment author: entirelyuseless 24 June 2016 01:10:53PM 0 points [-]

You need an argument for your claim about approximation, especially considering the fact that I am a remote outlier. And I agree that not all voters think like me. That is exactly my point.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 27 June 2016 01:26:42AM -1 points [-]

Just take some time to consider how TDT applies to decision in real life. You will get it, I'm sure.

Comment author: entirelyuseless 27 June 2016 01:57:31PM -1 points [-]

The way it applies in real life, is that all the people like me will choose not to vote, and to work together for a better, less inefficient system, which will give us much more utility than if we had all chosen to vote.

Comment author: gjm 27 June 2016 03:41:22PM -2 points [-]

It seems to me that not voting and working for a better system are basically independent activities.

Comment author: entirelyuseless 27 June 2016 03:44:13PM -1 points [-]

Not entirely. It would take me at least 30 minutes to vote, and probably more, given the need to register. Together with the other people like me (and I am admitting there aren't very many, since I only include those who have a similar algorithm, not all those that happen to get the same outcome), that adds up to a good deal of time that could be spent on working for a better system, while there would still be no change in the outcome from voting, even if the group of us voted as a unit.