Lumifer comments on Putanumonit - Discarding empathy to save the world - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Jacobian 11 October 2016 01:11:07PM 0 points [-]

How about: doing evil (even inadvertently) requires coercion. Slavery, Nazis, tying a witch to a stake, you name it. Nothing effective altruists currently do is coercive (except to mosquitoes), so we're probably good. However, if we come up with a world improvement plan that requires coercing somebody, we should A) hear their take on it and B) empathize with them for a bit. This isn't a 100% perfect plan, but it seems to be a decent framework.

Comment author: Lumifer 11 October 2016 06:51:05PM 1 point [-]

I agree with gjm that evil does not necessarily require coercion. Contemplate, say, instigating a lynching.

The reason EAs don't do any coercion is because they don't have any power. But I don't see anything in their line of reasoning which would stop them from coercing other people in case they do get some power. They are not libertarians.