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Comment author: Kevin92 16 December 2015 02:06:26AM *  1 point [-]

Yes, but the gym has a decisive advantage: it's real and the transhuman technology is imaginary.

The transhuman technology is a tentative speculation of what could happen in the future.

Remember this is a forum where people regularly talk about terraforming mars and building dyson spheres, I think speculating about transhumanism is appropriate in that context.

Which aren't all that diverse if you're talking about looks.

I'm unsure about this. My taste in looks for mating partners is very diverse, and I'm only one individual. But then again I'm likely to be an outlier and it would be silly to assume other people are like me. But even if it's true that women don't have diverse tastes, I don't think that means we should throw male individuals under the bus by denying them bodily upgrades just for the sake of "diversity". Imagine going up to Joe Wilson of Boston and saying: "sorry bro, but we're going to keep you fat so we can have diversity."

Comment author: Lumifer 16 December 2015 05:32:08AM *  0 points [-]

The transhuman technology is a tentative speculation of what could happen in the future.

Sure. Since we're imagining things, technology can give you any body you want and it doesn't even have to be human. But that's pretty obvious, so I'm wondering what's the point that you want to make.

we should throw male individuals under the bus by denying them bodily upgrades just for the sake of "diversity"

There are a whole lot of background assumptions here, beyond assuming that body upgrades are available. You are assuming that somebody can allow or deny them. You are assuming that this somebody cares about diversity of body types (in which case they might incentivise you to grow a couple of extra limbs or switch to a radial-symmetry body plan instead of staying fat and flabby, by the way). You are assuming these upgrades are a sufficiently big deal so that you don't want to do one each time you get bored or your girlfriend changes. Etc., etc.