pjeby comments on Post Your Utility Function - Less Wrong

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Comment author: pjeby 06 June 2009 12:04:57AM -1 points [-]

I'm just trying to be decisive in identifying the potential flaming patterns in the discussion. I could debate the specifics, but given my prior experience in debating stuff with you, and given the topics that could be debated in these last instances, I predict that the discussion won't lead anywhere, and so I skip the debate and simply state my position, to avoid unnecessary text.

I don't understand how that's supposed to work. If you don't expect it to lead anywhere, why bother saying anything at all?

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 06 June 2009 12:16:04AM 0 points [-]

I'm registering the disagreement, and inviting you to sort the issue out for yourself, through reconsidering your position in response to apparent disagreement, or through engaging into a more constructive form of discussion.

Comment author: pjeby 06 June 2009 12:22:09AM -1 points [-]

I'm registering the disagreement, and inviting you to sort the issue out for yourself, through reconsidering your position in response to apparent disagreement, or through engaging into a more constructive form of discussion.

This appears to be a one-way street. If applied consistently, it would seem that your first step would be to reconsider your position in response to apparent disagreement... or that I should reply by registering my disagreement -- which implicitly I'd have already done.

Or, better yet, you would begin (as other people usually do) by starting the "more constructive form of discussion", i.e., raising specific objections or asking specific questions to determine where the differences in our maps lie.