If the future is good, it will be a technical problem whether we can resurrect the dead (especially, against the second law of thermodynamics). If the future is bad, it doesn't matter what we want.
I am not sure what is there to discuss, other than how to preserve the people who are still alive (cryonics) and how to increase the probability that the future is good, which is what this website is mostly about.
We might agree the second law of thermodynamics does not make resurrection insurmountable, there is much is physics we don't know yet, reconstructing a person might not involve collecting their parts.
Also agreed, if the future is bad it doesn't matter what we want, but we have the power to effect the future today and in the near future, and to me it seems like embracing this framework might have a positive effect.
Avatarism can offer a goal to those of us who lost our direction when we lost religion, I sense in secular society a lack of "North Star" to aspire to, Avatarism offers this in a net good even if it would ultimately be unsuccessful.
People of LessWrong share a common thread: a drive to understand reality as it is, coupled with a willingness to tackle ambitious projects that push beyond current human limitations. Today, I’d like to introduce a nascent idea—“Avatarism”—that attempts to meld rationality, scientific rigor, and technological ambition into a guiding vision.
The short version: Avatarism proposes that instead of relying on ancient metaphysical narratives to provide meaning or solace from death and injustice, we should consciously work to create a future state (a “True Heaven”) in our own actual universe—a realm of well-being and freedom from suffering, and even more outrageously resurrect past individuals into this improved state of existence. The claim is not that we know how to achieve this right now, but that we can at least start charting a course, applying the same tools of rationality, epistemic humility, and technological foresight that the LessWrong community already values.
A Brief Sketch of Avatarism
Engaging with Objections
A Friendly Invitation
Avatarism is not a demand for belief; it’s an invitation to consider and promote an ultimate goal: leveraging rationality, science, and collective wisdom to move beyond existential angst and toward a state of well-being that past generations dared only to fantasize and mythize. It could be a grand unifying narrative for rational futurists—one that stays tethered to reality, embraces uncertainty, and makes no excuses for pretending things are easy. The journey is just beginning, and I’m curious whether the LessWrong community finds value in exploring—and perhaps shaping—this conceptual frontier.
If this resonates—or if you have critiques or counter-arguments—I invite you to a discussion here or to visit the Avatarism website and share your thoughts. Your insights can help refine the vision.