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Alexandros comments on Fine-Tuned Mind Projection - Less Wrong Discussion

3 Post author: Alexandros 29 November 2010 12:08AM

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Comment author: Alexandros 29 November 2010 01:03:02PM *  0 points [-]

That's logically different from what I said.

You are correct, my apologies. However your original wording is congruent with Luke's point: If the universe is fine-tuned for life, then it's even more fine-tuned for iPads.

About your second point, I think you are thinking of a much stronger version of the fine tuning premise than what I've ever heard articulated. (Fine-tuned for atoms vs. fine-tuned for life)

I'll have to do a bit more research to see what the projected alternatives are, but I can't immediately recall any support for "99,9999% of everything else would be identical". If that were indeed the case, then we' may have to fall back on anthropics and the multiverse. (on second thought, even just the difference between the values itself may be enough of a universe differentiator). What I do recall is a sort of "different but not life-permitting" set of universes.

Off to do some more research, any sources you may have would be appreciated.

Comment author: ciphergoth 30 November 2010 07:51:14AM 0 points [-]

The stronger version is AIUI physically right and the more interesting version. Many arguments against fine-tuning are applicable only to the weaker version - eg Douglas Adams's puddle.