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29 Post author: Raemon 24 December 2010 04:57AM

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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 24 December 2010 06:26:11AM *  0 points [-]

How far up the evolutionary tree do you believe suffering extends? Primates? Mammals? Vertebrates? Any animal with a nervous system? What about plant suffering? Does an overworked computer suffer as it frantically swaps memory between RAM and disk? Are you sure you're not committing the mind projection fallacy.

Also, while we're on the subject why should suffering be the basis of morality, as opposed to something like subjective experience?

This is another case where, it seems to me, rather tortured reasoning is required to argue that other animals aren't really suffering even when we have every reason to think they are.

I suspect your definition of "tortured reasoning" amounts to any complex reasoning that leads to conclusions you don't like.

Comment author: Davorak 25 December 2010 08:52:31AM 0 points [-]

Also, while we're on the subject why should suffering be the basis of morality, as opposed to something like subjective experience?

It is not clear what you mean by this statement. Are you suggesting subjective experience is a better alternative or that both are equally absurd?

It has already been interpreted to be the former at least once.