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Comment author: ciphergoth 07 September 2011 07:41:48AM 8 points [-]

Gerd Gigerenzer estimates that there were 1,600 excess road fatalities due to increased driving post 9/11.

Comment author: satt 07 September 2011 10:43:29PM 1 point [-]

Leads me to wonder whether there are any terrorist attacks that killed more people via indirect effects like that than from the attack's direct effect. (9/11 fits if I count the war in Afghanistan and/or the Iraq War, although that feels a bit like cheating.)

Comment author: lessdazed 08 September 2011 01:46:10AM 3 points [-]

It depends on what you mean by terrorism and indirect effects. The assassination of Franz Ferdinand had a few repercussions.

Comment author: ciphergoth 08 September 2011 07:06:15AM 2 points [-]

Every other attack on aircraft ever, I should think. Even if they only had 1/20th the effect on encouraging driving over flight, very few of them will have killed 80 people.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 08 September 2011 04:30:28PM 2 points [-]

Is that true? I thought most aircraft attacks were an all-or-nothing thing. The aircraft goes down or it doesn't.

Comment author: ciphergoth 08 September 2011 07:08:16PM *  1 point [-]

You're right - I was thinking of the sort of attack where they capture rather than down the aircraft, but that hardly ever happens these days.

Comment author: lessdazed 08 September 2011 05:01:46PM *  0 points [-]

He means each air attack encouraged driving instead of flying, and the extra driving killed more people than the "all" from the attack.