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byrnema comments on Knox and Sollecito freed - Less Wrong Discussion

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Comment author: wedrifid 04 October 2011 03:29:47AM 4 points [-]

As often is the case, the disagreement seems to boil down to simple miscommunication. If I'm right in my (somewhat cursory) assessment, then there's no actual difference of opinion, and this is just yet another mundane example of the words getting in the way.

There is a difference in actual opinion. It is not excessively important right now given how little power we have over this scenario. It would become important if we were, for example, choosing where the law should place the boundary of 'libel' and related laws.

He argued that they aren't targeting somebody they think is innocent (thus they're not "evil"), and that their failure of irrationality was understandable (therefore not "disgraceful"). That's it.

That's a big 'it'. I understand why humans do an awful lot of the things they do and quite often empathize with them. It's understandable for people to want other people's stuff, have sex and to eliminate rivals, for example. That doesn't make the behaviours involved less disgraceful or necessary to prevent.

So what's the difference? He seems to have pinpointed the former term as implying that they're trying to do harm, and the latter one as adding a whole slew of extra layers of incompetence or idiocy.

They are trying to do harm. They are trying to destroy the lives of some scapegoats.

Comment author: byrnema 04 October 2011 03:44:54AM 1 point [-]

They are trying to do harm. They are trying to destroy the lives of some scapegoats.

What specific behavior are you referring to?

Comment author: wedrifid 04 October 2011 03:54:32AM 0 points [-]

What specific behavior are you referring to?

The model of the reaction of the Kercher family as presented by JoshuaZ and sound bites presented by linked news sources who want to say exciting things. Any relationship to the behaviour of actual Kercher's should be considered mostly coincidental.

Comment author: byrnema 04 October 2011 04:25:46AM 1 point [-]

OK, I understand you are reacting to the media's model of the reaction, provided with the sound bytes. However, there didn't seem to be anything there. Their comments were pretty bland.

Being disappointed and shocked about and disbelieving of a verdict doesn't seem harmful. What am I missing?