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Lapsed_Lurker comments on Whole Brain Emulation: Looking At Progress On C. elgans - Less Wrong Discussion

40 Post author: jkaufman 29 October 2011 03:21PM

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Comment author: Lapsed_Lurker 29 October 2011 10:25:31PM 4 points [-]

How well can a single neuron or a few neurons be simulated? If we have good working models of those, which behave as we see in life, then that means WBE might be harder, if no such models yet exist, then the failures to model a 302-neuron system are not such good evidence for difficulty.

Comment author: Douglas_Knight 29 October 2011 11:57:45PM *  7 points [-]

There are many models of neurons, at many levels of detail. I think that the Neuron program uses the finest detail of any existing software.

I see the primary purpose of a simulating a nematode as measuring how well such models actually work. If they do work, it also lets us estimate the amount of detail needed, but the first question is whether these models are biologically realistic. An easier task would be to test whether the models accurately describe a bunch of neurons in a petri dish. The drawback of such an approach is that it is not clear what it would mean for a model to be adequate for that purpose, whereas in a organism we know what constitutes biologically meaningless noise. Also, realistic networks probably suppress certain kinds of noise.

Comment author: Lapsed_Lurker 30 October 2011 12:15:49AM 1 point [-]

When I googled for information on neuron emulation, that site came up as the first hit. I've used the search box to look for 'elegans' and 'nematode' - both 0 hits, so I figure no-one is discussing that stuff on their forum.

Comment author: slarson 01 November 2011 11:23:22PM *  1 point [-]

There is a good review of strategies for building computational models of neurons here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17629781