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Comment author: fortyeridania 16 May 2012 01:53:01PM 1 point [-]

I too agree with pretty much everything in the Sequences that I've read (which is nearly all except the quantum bits), and I share your antipathy toward summary dismissal of disagreement. I was especiallyoffended at OP's request that commenters refrain from "substantiating" their objections.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 16 May 2012 03:36:19PM 2 points [-]

So, I agree that a request like that regarding some idea X contributes to the silence of those who disagree with X.

That said, if there are a hundred people, and each person is (on average) ten times more likely to devote a unit of effort to talking about why X is wrong than to talking about why X is right even in situations where they are unsure whether X is wrong or right, then without some request along those lines there will effectively never be a discussion of why X is right.

That isn't necessarily a problem; maybe we're OK with never having a discussion of why X is right.

But it does mean that "summary dismissal" isn't a unilateral thing in cases like that. Yes, in such a case, if I make such a request, I am contributing to the silencing of the anti-X side as above... but if I fail to make such a request, I am contributing to the silencing of the pro-X side (though of course I can't be held accountable for it, since the responsibility for that silencing is distributed).

I try to stay aware that the end result sometimes matters more than whether anyone can hold me accountable for it.

Comment author: fortyeridania 17 May 2012 03:18:45PM 0 points [-]

without some request along those lines there will effectively never be a discussion of why X is right

This is true. Good point.

This isn't necessarily a problem

Also true.